Have your say about fracking

Have your say about fracking

Have your say about fracking

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STROUD District Green Party says there is too little public awareness of a fracking consultation currently being run by the government.
The government website gives information about the technical and environmental aspects of fracking – and gives visitors a chance to respond.
The consultation will close on Friday, August 15.
However, Greens are concerned too few people are aware of the consultation.
Green candidate for the Valley Ward district council by-election, Martin Baxendale, said: “For a consultation to be meaningful, people have to know about it and have chance to make their opinions heard.
“We want to encourage everyone in Stroud District to let the government know what they think of fracking.”
Find the consultation at gov.uk/government/consultations/underground-drilling-access

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8:56pm Mon 28 Jul 14

corin22 says...

green party, full of scare mongering with little or no facts, fracking does not cause earthquakes, stronger quakes from coal mining, does not destroy the area, we have 40 sqr mile area of gravel extraction in the Cotswold and look at the employment and nature reserves there, plenty of legislation in the UK to protect against water contamination. There has been fracking for 50 years in the UK so why all of a sudden the outcry?, oh, must be protesters worried that with the employment possibilities it brings they may have to work for a living , if a job simple enough can be found for them
green party, full of scare mongering with little or no facts, fracking does not cause earthquakes, stronger quakes from coal mining, does not destroy the area, we have 40 sqr mile area of gravel extraction in the Cotswold and look at the employment and nature reserves there, plenty of legislation in the UK to protect against water contamination. There has been fracking for 50 years in the UK so why all of a sudden the outcry?, oh, must be protesters worried that with the employment possibilities it brings they may have to work for a living , if a job simple enough can be found for them corin22
  • Score: 1

10:54pm Mon 28 Jul 14

BigBoy22 says...

What does Neil think? Didn't he guarantee us no fracking in Glos just a few months back? What's the story now the first licence to frack here went on sale today?
What does Neil think? Didn't he guarantee us no fracking in Glos just a few months back? What's the story now the first licence to frack here went on sale today? BigBoy22
  • Score: 0

11:05pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Crow says...

Neil said, 'I would rather frack the rock, than rock rhe boat'..
Neil said, 'I would rather frack the rock, than rock rhe boat'.. Crow
  • Score: 4

3:05pm Tue 29 Jul 14

JamesStroud says...

corin22 wrote:
green party, full of scare mongering with little or no facts, fracking does not cause earthquakes, stronger quakes from coal mining, does not destroy the area, we have 40 sqr mile area of gravel extraction in the Cotswold and look at the employment and nature reserves there, plenty of legislation in the UK to protect against water contamination. There has been fracking for 50 years in the UK so why all of a sudden the outcry?, oh, must be protesters worried that with the employment possibilities it brings they may have to work for a living , if a job simple enough can be found for them
Corin22, for a start, there has not "been fracking for 50 years in the UK" of a form designed to extract shale gas - the technology for this was only developed to a point it would be economical in the late 1990s, and hasn't been widely used in the UK yet. Secondly, I'm not a member of the Green Party but where is the "scaremongering" you mention - all they do in the above quote is say people should be aware of the consultation.

More importantly, how can you compare the extraction of fossil fuels with the extraction of gravel? Gravel isn't a greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change when it is burnt as a fuel.
In 2011, David Atkinson, Professor of Ecology and Environmental Biology at Cornell University, and two colleagues, published their analysis of data from industry and government reports and other sources, “Methane and the greenhouse-gas footprint of natural gas from shale formations”, in the Journal Climatic Change. They concluded that “Compared to coal, the footprint of shale gas is at least 20% greater and perhaps more than twice as great on the 20-year horizon and is comparable when compared over 100 years” (http://link.springe
r.com/content/pdf/10
.1007%2Fs10584-011-0
061-5.pdf).

According to figures from the Australian Government’s Climate Commission, based on the International Energy Agency data, fossil fuel companies have reserves of coal, oil and gas that are five times larger than the amount that, if burned, would lead to a more than two degrees of warming globally. That's the threshold that governments around the world have agreed we need to avoid crossing in order to maximise the chance that climate change can be minimised to being within a range that to which human societies can adapt (http://climatecommi
ssion.gov.au/report/
the-critical-decade-
2013/). This is before counting any new reserves found through fracking. We need to leave fossil fuels in the ground.

Regarding your lazy stereotype about opponents of fracking being unemployed and opposing the job opportunities of fossil fuel extraction, there are over 100,000 people employed in renewable energy in the UK and that number would be much higher if investment was directed at these sources of energy rather than fracking: http://blueandgreent
omorrow.com/features
/renewable-energy-em
ployment-in-the-uk-i
nfographic-analysis/
[quote][p][bold]corin22[/bold] wrote: green party, full of scare mongering with little or no facts, fracking does not cause earthquakes, stronger quakes from coal mining, does not destroy the area, we have 40 sqr mile area of gravel extraction in the Cotswold and look at the employment and nature reserves there, plenty of legislation in the UK to protect against water contamination. There has been fracking for 50 years in the UK so why all of a sudden the outcry?, oh, must be protesters worried that with the employment possibilities it brings they may have to work for a living , if a job simple enough can be found for them[/p][/quote]Corin22, for a start, there has not "been fracking for 50 years in the UK" of a form designed to extract shale gas - the technology for this was only developed to a point it would be economical in the late 1990s, and hasn't been widely used in the UK yet. Secondly, I'm not a member of the Green Party but where is the "scaremongering" you mention - all they do in the above quote is say people should be aware of the consultation. More importantly, how can you compare the extraction of fossil fuels with the extraction of gravel? Gravel isn't a greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change when it is burnt as a fuel. In 2011, David Atkinson, Professor of Ecology and Environmental Biology at Cornell University, and two colleagues, published their analysis of data from industry and government reports and other sources, “Methane and the greenhouse-gas footprint of natural gas from shale formations”, in the Journal Climatic Change. They concluded that “Compared to coal, the footprint of shale gas is at least 20% greater and perhaps more than twice as great on the 20-year horizon and is comparable when compared over 100 years” (http://link.springe r.com/content/pdf/10 .1007%2Fs10584-011-0 061-5.pdf). According to figures from the Australian Government’s Climate Commission, based on the International Energy Agency data, fossil fuel companies have reserves of coal, oil and gas that are five times larger than the amount that, if burned, would lead to a more than two degrees of warming globally. That's the threshold that governments around the world have agreed we need to avoid crossing in order to maximise the chance that climate change can be minimised to being within a range that to which human societies can adapt (http://climatecommi ssion.gov.au/report/ the-critical-decade- 2013/). This is before counting any new reserves found through fracking. We need to leave fossil fuels in the ground. Regarding your lazy stereotype about opponents of fracking being unemployed and opposing the job opportunities of fossil fuel extraction, there are over 100,000 people employed in renewable energy in the UK and that number would be much higher if investment was directed at these sources of energy rather than fracking: http://blueandgreent omorrow.com/features /renewable-energy-em ployment-in-the-uk-i nfographic-analysis/ JamesStroud
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3:33pm Tue 29 Jul 14

kjag23 says...

Those campaigning against fracking don't really have a right to unless their own homes are powered by green renewables.
We have to get power from somewhere, fracking is preferable over buying dirty oil and gas from the Russians.
With the current Ukraine crisis, there are only so many sanctions we can put upon the Russians before we start to damage ourselves, we are reliant on them for power afterall.

Make it law that solar panels and turbines have to be installed on ALL new builds, else we will be forced to find our electricity wherever we can.
Those campaigning against fracking don't really have a right to unless their own homes are powered by green renewables. We have to get power from somewhere, fracking is preferable over buying dirty oil and gas from the Russians. With the current Ukraine crisis, there are only so many sanctions we can put upon the Russians before we start to damage ourselves, we are reliant on them for power afterall. Make it law that solar panels and turbines have to be installed on ALL new builds, else we will be forced to find our electricity wherever we can. kjag23
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