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HAVE YOUR SAY: What should Britain's Olympics legacy be?
9:16am Monday 13th August 2012 in London Olympics 2012 - Latest News
HAVE YOUR SAY: What should Britain's Olympics legacy be?
So, it's all over. Last night's closing ceremony capped Britain's most sucessful Games in more than a century - but what should happen now?
From better representation for women in sport to compulsory competitive sport in schools, there have already been a lot of opinions expresed about what should be the legacy of London 2012.
We'd like to know what you think - let us know in the comments please!
Comments(33)
Ferndown Steve
says...
9:50am Mon 13 Aug 12
Hopefully will help stop obesity in children becoming the norm and also in later life !
It would also have a knock-on benefit easing the financial NHS burden with healthier population in the future !
dontbuyit
says...
9:55am Mon 13 Aug 12
jobsworthwatch
says...
10:31am Mon 13 Aug 12
You can't cycle the prom at the moment, and there's a total ban on the cliff tops and in the chines, in fact you see no cycling signs everywhere!
And its a shame that the westover rowing club building was demolished just prior to the Olympics. Still, I'm sure our councilors are poised to reap the sporting bonanza that will come to this town as part of the Olympic Legacy!
talkischeap
says...
10:43am Mon 13 Aug 12
jobsworthwatch wrote:take it from me 'olympic legacy' is a media inspired hype that will be a very damp squib.
Lets hope our councilors and jobsworths are ready for the cycling and rowing frenzy that is sweeping the nation.
You can't cycle the prom at the moment, and there's a total ban on the cliff tops and in the chines, in fact you see no cycling signs everywhere!
And its a shame that the westover rowing club building was demolished just prior to the Olympics. Still, I'm sure our councilors are poised to reap the sporting bonanza that will come to this town as part of the Olympic Legacy!
if youre into sport ,youll carry on .
if youre having a short term rush of blood to the head in tune with your trendy mates it will be just like your new year resolution !!! 'seemed like a good idea at the time ....... !' followed by a million excuses not to go cycling in the middle of winter
yourbard
says...
10:45am Mon 13 Aug 12
jobsworthwatch wrote:How about our Councillors considering this deal - enforce the 10 - 6 Summer ban on prom cycling, to help protect our visitors, in return for keeping the prom free of sand for both us regulars and the new cyclists who might like to use the prom to build up confidence before facing the traffic on the roads.
Lets hope our councilors and jobsworths are ready for the cycling and rowing frenzy that is sweeping the nation.
You can't cycle the prom at the moment, and there's a total ban on the cliff tops and in the chines, in fact you see no cycling signs everywhere!
And its a shame that the westover rowing club building was demolished just prior to the Olympics. Still, I'm sure our councilors are poised to reap the sporting bonanza that will come to this town as part of the Olympic Legacy!
chicken_madras
says...
10:48am Mon 13 Aug 12
%50 of our medal winners came from private schools. This fugure will only get bigger with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer under Cameron.
jobsworthwatch
says...
10:58am Mon 13 Aug 12
talkischeap
says...
11:02am Mon 13 Aug 12
yourbard wrote:theres a loverly velodrome at slades farm and at times ive been there have never seen anyone else on it . why ?
jobsworthwatch wrote:How about our Councillors considering this deal - enforce the 10 - 6 Summer ban on prom cycling, to help protect our visitors, in return for keeping the prom free of sand for both us regulars and the new cyclists who might like to use the prom to build up confidence before facing the traffic on the roads.
Lets hope our councilors and jobsworths are ready for the cycling and rowing frenzy that is sweeping the nation.
You can't cycle the prom at the moment, and there's a total ban on the cliff tops and in the chines, in fact you see no cycling signs everywhere!
And its a shame that the westover rowing club building was demolished just prior to the Olympics. Still, I'm sure our councilors are poised to reap the sporting bonanza that will come to this town as part of the Olympic Legacy!
Tripod
says...
11:05am Mon 13 Aug 12
The ParaLympic games don't start until 29th.
talkischeap
says...
11:06am Mon 13 Aug 12
jobsworthwatch wrote:we only have one profitable swimming pool (run by the council)in this area (and profitable it HAS to be ) at the Littledown Centre and that only because it is a complete sports centre,as a stand alone pool it would have closed years ago
...and of course there's the swimming, we've got the sea but no pool near the sea front? Considering the town is sandwiched between two harbours rammed with sailing craft; a marina might be a good idea too?
jobsworthwatch
says...
11:06am Mon 13 Aug 12
talkischeap wrote:Not a good place to get on a bike for the first time!
yourbard wrote:theres a loverly velodrome at slades farm and at times ive been there have never seen anyone else on it . why ?
jobsworthwatch wrote:How about our Councillors considering this deal - enforce the 10 - 6 Summer ban on prom cycling, to help protect our visitors, in return for keeping the prom free of sand for both us regulars and the new cyclists who might like to use the prom to build up confidence before facing the traffic on the roads.
Lets hope our councilors and jobsworths are ready for the cycling and rowing frenzy that is sweeping the nation.
You can't cycle the prom at the moment, and there's a total ban on the cliff tops and in the chines, in fact you see no cycling signs everywhere!
And its a shame that the westover rowing club building was demolished just prior to the Olympics. Still, I'm sure our councilors are poised to reap the sporting bonanza that will come to this town as part of the Olympic Legacy!
rjimmer
says...
11:08am Mon 13 Aug 12
FNS-man
says...
11:24am Mon 13 Aug 12
ajj-dorset
says...
11:36am Mon 13 Aug 12
Bizarrely the government have decided what is needed is enforced competition for young children and further erosion of teachers contracts. Whilst this may go down well with the ill informed Daily Mail reader who have been conditioned to beleive there is no competition in school sports and that leftie teachers are the root cause of all ills in the world, the reality is that young children need encouragement, to learn basic skills and to be exposed to all kinds of sports and physical activities.
Schools and teachers were roundly praised by many of the medal winners for their contribution and encouragement, competitors understand that so many people gave freely of their time to help develop young athletes and imbibe the skills and enthusiasm needed to succeed. Sad to see how politicians who neither participated in or seem to understand what actually goes on within state schools, condemning teachers for not doing enough unpaid work to help those self same politicians revel in the glory.
Lets see them commit money to primary school sports, lets see them provide proper equipment, training and resources. lets see a government praise teachers rather than criticizing them, helping them not hindering them?
In addition lets see parents with sporting ability getting involved in schools, helping pass on that knowledge and skills rather than sitting back leaving the burden with teachers. Schools are desperate to expand their sporting curriculum, but with the demise of SSP they often lack specific expertise in sports, more parental involvement could help close this gap.
talkischeap
says...
11:48am Mon 13 Aug 12
ajj-dorset wrote:and which planet are you on exactly ?
A real legacy would involve real investment, both in cash terms from the government and in time from people inspired by these fantastic games.
Bizarrely the government have decided what is needed is enforced competition for young children and further erosion of teachers contracts. Whilst this may go down well with the ill informed Daily Mail reader who have been conditioned to beleive there is no competition in school sports and that leftie teachers are the root cause of all ills in the world, the reality is that young children need encouragement, to learn basic skills and to be exposed to all kinds of sports and physical activities.
Schools and teachers were roundly praised by many of the medal winners for their contribution and encouragement, competitors understand that so many people gave freely of their time to help develop young athletes and imbibe the skills and enthusiasm needed to succeed. Sad to see how politicians who neither participated in or seem to understand what actually goes on within state schools, condemning teachers for not doing enough unpaid work to help those self same politicians revel in the glory.
Lets see them commit money to primary school sports, lets see them provide proper equipment, training and resources. lets see a government praise teachers rather than criticizing them, helping them not hindering them?
In addition lets see parents with sporting ability getting involved in schools, helping pass on that knowledge and skills rather than sitting back leaving the burden with teachers. Schools are desperate to expand their sporting curriculum, but with the demise of SSP they often lack specific expertise in sports, more parental involvement could help close this gap.
idealistic claptrap,whos got the time for it ,we're all to busy making the money in the real world
ajj-dorset
says...
12:08pm Mon 13 Aug 12
talkischeap wrote:Seems plenty of people have time to be miserable and condescending on comment pages but expect others to get up and do something to help.
ajj-dorset wrote:and which planet are you on exactly ?
A real legacy would involve real investment, both in cash terms from the government and in time from people inspired by these fantastic games.
Bizarrely the government have decided what is needed is enforced competition for young children and further erosion of teachers contracts. Whilst this may go down well with the ill informed Daily Mail reader who have been conditioned to beleive there is no competition in school sports and that leftie teachers are the root cause of all ills in the world, the reality is that young children need encouragement, to learn basic skills and to be exposed to all kinds of sports and physical activities.
Schools and teachers were roundly praised by many of the medal winners for their contribution and encouragement, competitors understand that so many people gave freely of their time to help develop young athletes and imbibe the skills and enthusiasm needed to succeed. Sad to see how politicians who neither participated in or seem to understand what actually goes on within state schools, condemning teachers for not doing enough unpaid work to help those self same politicians revel in the glory.
Lets see them commit money to primary school sports, lets see them provide proper equipment, training and resources. lets see a government praise teachers rather than criticizing them, helping them not hindering them?
In addition lets see parents with sporting ability getting involved in schools, helping pass on that knowledge and skills rather than sitting back leaving the burden with teachers. Schools are desperate to expand their sporting curriculum, but with the demise of SSP they often lack specific expertise in sports, more parental involvement could help close this gap.
idealistic claptrap,whos got the time for it ,we're all to busy making the money in the real world
Time and money can be found if the will is there, odd that the DfE can find £600 million for free schools but decides to scrap SSPs?
In my experience, where there is a will, there is a way, but there will always be some soulless detractor who criticises rather than participates.
jinglebell
says...
12:10pm Mon 13 Aug 12
talkischeap wrote:In business you also have products for sale, which you know on their own don't provide a profit but they bring in the punters to buy other products. A pool in a central location would be just such a product....and if it was made Olympic size, we can have international competitions in it.
jobsworthwatch wrote:we only have one profitable swimming pool (run by the council)in this area (and profitable it HAS to be ) at the Littledown Centre and that only because it is a complete sports centre,as a stand alone pool it would have closed years ago
...and of course there's the swimming, we've got the sea but no pool near the sea front? Considering the town is sandwiched between two harbours rammed with sailing craft; a marina might be a good idea too?
The accompanying publicity and visitors all aids the town and encourages young people to take part in sport.
ajj-dorset
says...
12:24pm Mon 13 Aug 12
jinglebell wrote:Why does it HAVE to be profitable??
talkischeap wrote:In business you also have products for sale, which you know on their own don't provide a profit but they bring in the punters to buy other products. A pool in a central location would be just such a product....and if it was made Olympic size, we can have international competitions in it.
jobsworthwatch wrote:we only have one profitable swimming pool (run by the council)in this area (and profitable it HAS to be ) at the Littledown Centre and that only because it is a complete sports centre,as a stand alone pool it would have closed years ago
...and of course there's the swimming, we've got the sea but no pool near the sea front? Considering the town is sandwiched between two harbours rammed with sailing craft; a marina might be a good idea too?
The accompanying publicity and visitors all aids the town and encourages young people to take part in sport.
The Olympics were loss making, why does £ profit have to drive everything?
There are too many people who know the cost of everything but the value of nothing!
John T
says...
1:00pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Some hope! The Big Society, we are all in this together!
jinglebell
says...
1:04pm Mon 13 Aug 12
ajj-dorset wrote:Its not that I advocate that everything has to make a profit - I do not - but rather I can see that those in power will do nothing unless they see a profit...and they care little for the value in sport or art or any other pursuit. Having said that, a pool or sports centre can provide a profit to others in the locality if it is large enough to provide for international competitions.....in business we would call it a "loss leader". Something does not have to have one purpose - it can provide more than one.
jinglebell wrote:Why does it HAVE to be profitable??
talkischeap wrote:In business you also have products for sale, which you know on their own don't provide a profit but they bring in the punters to buy other products. A pool in a central location would be just such a product....and if it was made Olympic size, we can have international competitions in it.
jobsworthwatch wrote:we only have one profitable swimming pool (run by the council)in this area (and profitable it HAS to be ) at the Littledown Centre and that only because it is a complete sports centre,as a stand alone pool it would have closed years ago
...and of course there's the swimming, we've got the sea but no pool near the sea front? Considering the town is sandwiched between two harbours rammed with sailing craft; a marina might be a good idea too?
The accompanying publicity and visitors all aids the town and encourages young people to take part in sport.
The Olympics were loss making, why does £ profit have to drive everything?
There are too many people who know the cost of everything but the value of nothing!
What price ultimately can we place on the health and well being of our community? I would say its priceless ......I'm sure, however, Council Leader, Beesley will have a financial costing at his finger tips. He is happy to demolish the Boscombe Centre for Community and Arts (BCCA) for 11 houses, when it could provide for an increase in tourism, jobs, cinema, theatre, artist's workshops and inspiration for young people.
The British people do not take to the streets to demonstrate their concerns; they just seem to grumble into their tea. It is our apathy that kills the chances of our young to get the sports and arts facilities they need and deserve.
If even one tenth of the population of B'mth demonstrated in the streets on behalf the sports and arts facilities our young people deserve.....it would be delivered.
talkischeap
says...
1:31pm Mon 13 Aug 12
jinglebell wrote:olympic sized swimming pool ?? what sort of extravagence is that when we cant get funding for hospitals ,care for the elderly and all the rest of it . arent we told that it was this type of spending on under used facilities that got this country in debt
talkischeap wrote:In business you also have products for sale, which you know on their own don't provide a profit but they bring in the punters to buy other products. A pool in a central location would be just such a product....and if it was made Olympic size, we can have international competitions in it.
jobsworthwatch wrote:we only have one profitable swimming pool (run by the council)in this area (and profitable it HAS to be ) at the Littledown Centre and that only because it is a complete sports centre,as a stand alone pool it would have closed years ago
...and of course there's the swimming, we've got the sea but no pool near the sea front? Considering the town is sandwiched between two harbours rammed with sailing craft; a marina might be a good idea too?
The accompanying publicity and visitors all aids the town and encourages young people to take part in sport.
we had a swimming pool at the BIC the only way that could have been closer to the sea was to actually be in it .
these facilities do have to make a profit ,why should everyone fund facilities for the few ,this isnt a few quids worth . swimming pools cost millions to construct ,if you must swim jump in the sea its big enough and its free or tootle off to the Littledown they will welcome you with open arms and its already there . why dont we have an ice skating rink ? because not enough people want it and no private company can see a profit in it . the space is allocated but no one will ever build it and this council can no longer splash the cash like they used to ,these are schemes to forget for many years to come.
ajj-dorset
says...
1:38pm Mon 13 Aug 12
jinglebell wrote:I was quoting someone else who said "and profitable it HAS to be".
ajj-dorset wrote:Its not that I advocate that everything has to make a profit - I do not - but rather I can see that those in power will do nothing unless they see a profit...and they care little for the value in sport or art or any other pursuit. Having said that, a pool or sports centre can provide a profit to others in the locality if it is large enough to provide for international competitions.....in business we would call it a "loss leader". Something does not have to have one purpose - it can provide more than one.
jinglebell wrote:Why does it HAVE to be profitable??
talkischeap wrote:In business you also have products for sale, which you know on their own don't provide a profit but they bring in the punters to buy other products. A pool in a central location would be just such a product....and if it was made Olympic size, we can have international competitions in it.
jobsworthwatch wrote:we only have one profitable swimming pool (run by the council)in this area (and profitable it HAS to be ) at the Littledown Centre and that only because it is a complete sports centre,as a stand alone pool it would have closed years ago
...and of course there's the swimming, we've got the sea but no pool near the sea front? Considering the town is sandwiched between two harbours rammed with sailing craft; a marina might be a good idea too?
The accompanying publicity and visitors all aids the town and encourages young people to take part in sport.
The Olympics were loss making, why does £ profit have to drive everything?
There are too many people who know the cost of everything but the value of nothing!
What price ultimately can we place on the health and well being of our community? I would say its priceless ......I'm sure, however, Council Leader, Beesley will have a financial costing at his finger tips. He is happy to demolish the Boscombe Centre for Community and Arts (BCCA) for 11 houses, when it could provide for an increase in tourism, jobs, cinema, theatre, artist's workshops and inspiration for young people.
The British people do not take to the streets to demonstrate their concerns; they just seem to grumble into their tea. It is our apathy that kills the chances of our young to get the sports and arts facilities they need and deserve.
If even one tenth of the population of B'mth demonstrated in the streets on behalf the sports and arts facilities our young people deserve.....it would be delivered.
There are plenty of activities that are subsidised by the state, educating our young people to the benefits of sport should be high up on the list. Investing in facilities and equipment is surely a cost effective way of improving the health and well-being of our nation.
talkischeap
says...
1:39pm Mon 13 Aug 12
ajj-dorset wrote:no point being enthusiastic on your own ,for most of us keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table are the priority,never mind poncing about in lycra with a beer belly and a fag in your hand trying to look for all the world like exersise is the best thing since sliced bread.
talkischeap wrote:Seems plenty of people have time to be miserable and condescending on comment pages but expect others to get up and do something to help.
ajj-dorset wrote:and which planet are you on exactly ?
A real legacy would involve real investment, both in cash terms from the government and in time from people inspired by these fantastic games.
Bizarrely the government have decided what is needed is enforced competition for young children and further erosion of teachers contracts. Whilst this may go down well with the ill informed Daily Mail reader who have been conditioned to beleive there is no competition in school sports and that leftie teachers are the root cause of all ills in the world, the reality is that young children need encouragement, to learn basic skills and to be exposed to all kinds of sports and physical activities.
Schools and teachers were roundly praised by many of the medal winners for their contribution and encouragement, competitors understand that so many people gave freely of their time to help develop young athletes and imbibe the skills and enthusiasm needed to succeed. Sad to see how politicians who neither participated in or seem to understand what actually goes on within state schools, condemning teachers for not doing enough unpaid work to help those self same politicians revel in the glory.
Lets see them commit money to primary school sports, lets see them provide proper equipment, training and resources. lets see a government praise teachers rather than criticizing them, helping them not hindering them?
In addition lets see parents with sporting ability getting involved in schools, helping pass on that knowledge and skills rather than sitting back leaving the burden with teachers. Schools are desperate to expand their sporting curriculum, but with the demise of SSP they often lack specific expertise in sports, more parental involvement could help close this gap.
idealistic claptrap,whos got the time for it ,we're all to busy making the money in the real world
Time and money can be found if the will is there, odd that the DfE can find £600 million for free schools but decides to scrap SSPs?
In my experience, where there is a will, there is a way, but there will always be some soulless detractor who criticises rather than participates.
exercise ,unless you like ,is boring and there are far better ways to proceed toward your death ,in my oppinion
FNS-man
says...
3:00pm Mon 13 Aug 12
talkischeap wrote:Let me guess: you drive to work, don't you?
ajj-dorset wrote:no point being enthusiastic on your own ,for most of us keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table are the priority,never mind poncing about in lycra with a beer belly and a fag in your hand trying to look for all the world like exersise is the best thing since sliced bread. exercise ,unless you like ,is boring and there are far better ways to proceed toward your death ,in my oppiniontalkischeap wrote:Seems plenty of people have time to be miserable and condescending on comment pages but expect others to get up and do something to help. Time and money can be found if the will is there, odd that the DfE can find £600 million for free schools but decides to scrap SSPs? In my experience, where there is a will, there is a way, but there will always be some soulless detractor who criticises rather than participates.ajj-dorset wrote: A real legacy would involve real investment, both in cash terms from the government and in time from people inspired by these fantastic games. Bizarrely the government have decided what is needed is enforced competition for young children and further erosion of teachers contracts. Whilst this may go down well with the ill informed Daily Mail reader who have been conditioned to beleive there is no competition in school sports and that leftie teachers are the root cause of all ills in the world, the reality is that young children need encouragement, to learn basic skills and to be exposed to all kinds of sports and physical activities. Schools and teachers were roundly praised by many of the medal winners for their contribution and encouragement, competitors understand that so many people gave freely of their time to help develop young athletes and imbibe the skills and enthusiasm needed to succeed. Sad to see how politicians who neither participated in or seem to understand what actually goes on within state schools, condemning teachers for not doing enough unpaid work to help those self same politicians revel in the glory. Lets see them commit money to primary school sports, lets see them provide proper equipment, training and resources. lets see a government praise teachers rather than criticizing them, helping them not hindering them? In addition lets see parents with sporting ability getting involved in schools, helping pass on that knowledge and skills rather than sitting back leaving the burden with teachers. Schools are desperate to expand their sporting curriculum, but with the demise of SSP they often lack specific expertise in sports, more parental involvement could help close this gap.and which planet are you on exactly ? idealistic claptrap,whos got the time for it ,we're all to busy making the money in the real world
talkischeap
says...
4:11pm Mon 13 Aug 12
FNS-man wrote:stupid question ,like many others I drive for a living ,whats that got to do with anything ?,dont smoke or drink and i dont want to do exersise as part of my daily routine ,if however thats your choice ,enjoy it
talkischeap wrote:Let me guess: you drive to work, don't you?
ajj-dorset wrote:no point being enthusiastic on your own ,for most of us keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table are the priority,never mind poncing about in lycra with a beer belly and a fag in your hand trying to look for all the world like exersise is the best thing since sliced bread. exercise ,unless you like ,is boring and there are far better ways to proceed toward your death ,in my oppiniontalkischeap wrote:Seems plenty of people have time to be miserable and condescending on comment pages but expect others to get up and do something to help. Time and money can be found if the will is there, odd that the DfE can find £600 million for free schools but decides to scrap SSPs? In my experience, where there is a will, there is a way, but there will always be some soulless detractor who criticises rather than participates.ajj-dorset wrote: A real legacy would involve real investment, both in cash terms from the government and in time from people inspired by these fantastic games. Bizarrely the government have decided what is needed is enforced competition for young children and further erosion of teachers contracts. Whilst this may go down well with the ill informed Daily Mail reader who have been conditioned to beleive there is no competition in school sports and that leftie teachers are the root cause of all ills in the world, the reality is that young children need encouragement, to learn basic skills and to be exposed to all kinds of sports and physical activities. Schools and teachers were roundly praised by many of the medal winners for their contribution and encouragement, competitors understand that so many people gave freely of their time to help develop young athletes and imbibe the skills and enthusiasm needed to succeed. Sad to see how politicians who neither participated in or seem to understand what actually goes on within state schools, condemning teachers for not doing enough unpaid work to help those self same politicians revel in the glory. Lets see them commit money to primary school sports, lets see them provide proper equipment, training and resources. lets see a government praise teachers rather than criticizing them, helping them not hindering them? In addition lets see parents with sporting ability getting involved in schools, helping pass on that knowledge and skills rather than sitting back leaving the burden with teachers. Schools are desperate to expand their sporting curriculum, but with the demise of SSP they often lack specific expertise in sports, more parental involvement could help close this gap.and which planet are you on exactly ? idealistic claptrap,whos got the time for it ,we're all to busy making the money in the real world
pugs0404
says...
5:59pm Mon 13 Aug 12
ajj-dorset
says...
6:48pm Mon 13 Aug 12
pugs0404 wrote:Paying for the banking crisis is what will cost. The Olympics are no where near as expensive and providing a positive experience of sport for our youngsters would be minute in comparison.
the legacy will be britain in DEBTfor the next 20 years trying to pay off the olpics
beachcomber1
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9:56pm Mon 13 Aug 12
stanichardie
says...
9:45am Tue 14 Aug 12
The Sports Arena on the beach showed there are lots of volunteers at clubs and the expertise to help youngsters - and adults - into sport.
We have some excellent clubs in Weymouth and Portland from football, rugby, cricket, swimming, volleyball, table tennis etc and potentially excellent facilities (like Wey Valley Tennis Centre/Redlands/Spor
ts grounds). These clubs are in a better position to help improve the facilities and infrastructure and they have local knowledge.
l
l'anglais
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10:10am Tue 14 Aug 12
Which is far more democratic than wealth distribution.
Take out Maggies folly of home ownership and council property sell off, this generation is worse off than their grandparents generation.
jinglebell
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11:59am Tue 14 Aug 12
As for the Littledown, its a bit too out of the way to bother about if your on holiday and want to ditch the car.
We never seem to learn from other countries or towns that get it right....in Bournemouth we just seem to continue to dither around unable to make decisions which attract visitors, and encourage the community to do anything to become involved in any kind of decision making.
FNS-man
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6:39pm Thu 16 Aug 12
talkischeap wrote:Your attitude to the world just seemed typical of drivers. Thanks for confirming my prejudices.
FNS-man wrote:stupid question ,like many others I drive for a living ,whats that got to do with anything ?,dont smoke or drink and i dont want to do exersise as part of my daily routine ,if however thats your choice ,enjoy ittalkischeap wrote:Let me guess: you drive to work, don't you?ajj-dorset wrote:no point being enthusiastic on your own ,for most of us keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table are the priority,never mind poncing about in lycra with a beer belly and a fag in your hand trying to look for all the world like exersise is the best thing since sliced bread. exercise ,unless you like ,is boring and there are far better ways to proceed toward your death ,in my oppiniontalkischeap wrote:Seems plenty of people have time to be miserable and condescending on comment pages but expect others to get up and do something to help. Time and money can be found if the will is there, odd that the DfE can find £600 million for free schools but decides to scrap SSPs? In my experience, where there is a will, there is a way, but there will always be some soulless detractor who criticises rather than participates.ajj-dorset wrote: A real legacy would involve real investment, both in cash terms from the government and in time from people inspired by these fantastic games. Bizarrely the government have decided what is needed is enforced competition for young children and further erosion of teachers contracts. Whilst this may go down well with the ill informed Daily Mail reader who have been conditioned to beleive there is no competition in school sports and that leftie teachers are the root cause of all ills in the world, the reality is that young children need encouragement, to learn basic skills and to be exposed to all kinds of sports and physical activities. Schools and teachers were roundly praised by many of the medal winners for their contribution and encouragement, competitors understand that so many people gave freely of their time to help develop young athletes and imbibe the skills and enthusiasm needed to succeed. Sad to see how politicians who neither participated in or seem to understand what actually goes on within state schools, condemning teachers for not doing enough unpaid work to help those self same politicians revel in the glory. Lets see them commit money to primary school sports, lets see them provide proper equipment, training and resources. lets see a government praise teachers rather than criticizing them, helping them not hindering them? In addition lets see parents with sporting ability getting involved in schools, helping pass on that knowledge and skills rather than sitting back leaving the burden with teachers. Schools are desperate to expand their sporting curriculum, but with the demise of SSP they often lack specific expertise in sports, more parental involvement could help close this gap.and which planet are you on exactly ? idealistic claptrap,whos got the time for it ,we're all to busy making the money in the real world

talkischeap says...
9:43am Mon 13 Aug 12
for a fortnight the heat has been off of the government - now that the news is back ,reality will come back and whilst the olympics and the hype around will carry a positive vibe for a couple of weeks we all still have to fund our lives first and foremost and theres no spare cash to carry through the desires of our youngsters and it will all fall a bit flat